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Old 05-11-2013, 05:45 PM   #31
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There you go Ellen.

There is a very fine line between eating the grass down to the ground (over grazing) and then way pass that --- just like your horse lot growing only weeds.

Now it is going to take a long time to recover without your help.


And there is were Savory's idea meets with reality.
The devil is in the details of "Over grazing". ?

By the way what kind of breed of horses do you have?
Do you ride them much?
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:57 PM   #32
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Equil The link goes to some interesting articles - a vaccine for cocaine -- a physicist's poem - six words and all the words had nine letters.

Oh, and something about capitalism and socialism destroys morality.

But nothing about Jan Hendrik Scon. I guess I will go look for him on my own. He sounds interesting.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:18 PM   #33
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pawprint Budda says: don't believe everything WW says :P

hey Liquidambar, I think I misspoke wayyyyy back there as I described 'this method' as: intensive grazing. Anywayyyyyy I recently spoke to my local soil conservation agent on the phone, and he told me that in their federal program of paying producers to rotational graze, the idea is to cross fence and such, but not to consume the grass below 4". Which is now different from how it was explained to me some 10 years ago, so I hope I haven't misled anyone with my false notion of 'grazing to the dirt'. According to the county agent they currently sign up federal money for 10 producers for this method, in this county. With this method the producers still got in trouble last year in a severe drought, but other than that, the guy says it is the viable technique to get subsidized, and those that got in trouble are supposed to have a back-up pasture.

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Old 05-11-2013, 07:06 PM   #34
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Thanks for the information Wildwatcher.
Okay where did you get the tractor running over top of the smiling happy face -- too cute! At first I thought the big back tire was a roll of hay.

My men brought me 5 old round bales up around where I am going to need it. Now I have to get my sorry self up from here in the next few days and get that done.

Drought, and back up pastures -

I watched a show one time about a mini ice age that happened - for 700 years from 1350 to 1780 or so.

I love stuff like this:


They said that mankind assumes that what happened last year will happen again when it comes to climate and weather that is not really the case. So it is good that they tried to make a rule of a back up pastures.
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Old 05-12-2013, 03:42 PM   #35
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pawprint oh you gotta check out the other smilie icons!

Hey Liquidambar, to find the other special icons (there are over 50 of them), go to the 'Post box like your going to post a message', click: 'go advanced', find the little icons waving at ya, just below your message box. Look just to the left of the little icons and it says: Smilies {More} click on the {More} button. A little window should pop-up immediately, if yours doesn't pop-up immediately, (then you might have to adjust your computer browser to allow the page full of smilies to open) or find it over at this site: Smilie List - Wildlife Gardeners - North American Wildlife Gardening

Make the page large, so you can see the various icons easily. You can click on the icon you want, and it should immediately appear in your message box. OR you can simply type the name of each icon, the name is listed next to each icon, if you can remember what the name is you don't even have to open up the pop-up page. For example I can remember one of them it is called 'stirpot', so all I do is type a colon : infront of the name, and the computer 'knows' that you want an icon in your paragraph because you put a colon as part of the name.

If you need to remove the icon from your message box, just 'backspace' it out of there.

If after doing all that stuff, and your still not seeing the icons, then make sure your in the 'go advanced' area, look below the message box area, for another area entitled 'Additional options', if you find that area, notice the first few 'check boxes' entitled: 'miscellaneous options', there is one of those check boxes that should be turned off! It says: ~~~ Disable smilies in text ~~~make sure that one does not have a check mark next to it. You can send me some smilies just for fun to test or you can simply click 'Preview post' and that should show the smilies in your text.

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Old 05-12-2013, 09:08 PM   #36
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Well when I go advanced, and I hit the more smiles-- it only lets me do it one time.


Wellllll that : and then saying thanks works really really really good!



Okay you have created a monster

Oh no I am hooked -- I mean



No, it is not marked to disable similes. I don't know why it won't let me to do similes - but with your link and colons, I by passed that.
I will work on it some more and see.

WildWatcher last year there came a freeze and killed all my strawberries and Arapahoe blackberries that were in full bloom. I scrapped together a few strawberries, planted two more huge rows and worked my buns off keeping the weed out of them.

Tonight it is suppose to get down to 34 -- some kind of darn record. The strawberries and Arapahos blackberries are in full bloom-- again.
I just have finished covering them with many sheets. (should of done it with hay) I hope that is enough. Tomorrow morning I will spray down the black berries with a water hose (I sure hope that is enough too). Covered my whole role of tomatoes with hay.. This is getting mighty old.
Ahhhh it only lets me do 5 similes! Well learn something else.



but you made it up to me with these icons -
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:27 AM   #37
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ww> me thinks you just created a smilie monster.
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Liquid> "Equil The link goes to some interesting articles - a vaccine for cocaine -- a physicist's poem - six words and all the words had nine letters" Eeeesh.... that's not the link I posted. I took the link straight from the address bar so something's not right because I definitely know how to cut and paste. Maybe try this link to the article, Jan Hendrik Schön: World Class Physics Fraud Gets Last Laugh - A Whole Book About Himself. If that doesn's work.... you'll have to try yahooing for yourself... the article starts out like this, "Jan Hendrik Schön, if you have heard the name, will either fascinate or enrage you. His ability to progress from ridiculous fibs to world-class deception as a 31-year-old physicist working at Bell Labs in New Jersey is certainly impressive....How did fellow scientists let him get away with possibly the worst case of physics research fraud known....It's like a late night paid advertisement, except it cost taxpayers millions of dollars....Why did the self-correcting nature of science not bring the fraud to light sooner? Some of it is that there are bad scientists, just like in any other occupation, and they are drawn to money and silliness, and some of it is that peer-reviewed journals were not doing their jobs."
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Liquid and Ellenwright> you 2 are working with pastures on private properties.... Savory is trying to get his hands on our wilds so he can create new pastures.... for pennies on the dollar.... leasing v. buying or worse yet.... made available to him for free to help stave off the catastrophic effects of global warming and.... that's a big time no no in my book especially when there's plenty of land out there privately owned for sale that his "silent" partners and investers could buy that's already been irreversibly altered or better yet.... he can go experiment on other continents. Any new pastures he'd create in our deserts would be artificial environments completely dependent on "life support" for survival.... and that "life support".... well.... you can take it to the bank American tax payers would get stuck footing the bill for his pastures that are allegedly supposed to "mimic" nature that.... will bear no resemblance whatso ever to any desert ecosystem we've ever seen. Our desert tortoises and.... the rest of the indigenous flora and fauna he wants to displace.... will end up getting the short end of the stick just like the elephants he did away with did.... all for some perceived greater good. What he's trying to pull off on our continent is WRONG and TED should have never elevated this man to rockstar status amongst their viewers.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:16 PM   #38
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pawprint Again, I'll also be mulching something today, whether it needs it or not

wowwwwwwwwwwwie Liquidambar tyty for the flowerz and I'm glad you got your icon things sort-of going good. Sounds like you have your pop-up blocker on your 'internet explorer' or other internet browser program your using, sounds like your pop-up blocker is blocking the icon page from showing up. So if nothing else, list all those names & keep by your computer, and decorate all your posts as necessary! Ohhhhhhh you max-ed it out already at 5 icons...too funny! You know those icons don't grow on trees...so be responsible when using them. hahhaa

One more question for ya Liquidambar: when you 'attach a file' ...you know, (upload a pix to this website), does a little window pop-up, that you use to list & upload your pixs from??? yes or no

As for my strawberries, last year...the deer or some little critter ate every plant, so......I didn't have to worry about that frost thing.(this is how I feed the wildlife) But doesn't spraying your plants with water make them even colder? (it makes me cold just thinking of taking an outside shower at 0430 in the morning) I hope your plants make it ok, even if you won't give some of them hay.

Hey Equilibrium, Is that TED site related to Ted Nugent? My gut first told me that it might be, the first time I saw this thread, but when I made a quick tour of the site, seeking to link the site to the rockstar, I missed any connection.

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Old 05-13-2013, 06:28 PM   #39
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WildWatcher;Up load my pictures.
Darn sometimes - but not right away and I fiddle with it until I forget what I fiddled with and then it comes up.

As far as the documentary about "The Little Ice Age" it came up with lots of computer jargon - a whole page. but once I went to advance it put it up on the screen.

Is that what you meant?
Darn I meant to max out on icons again.

Equil; Your link still sent me back to the same page. I did not get it, but I can go in search of him on my own don't worry about it.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:15 PM   #40
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musical notes4 Liquidambar reminds me of my favorite song: 'Orange Blossom Special'

"I fiddle with it until I forget what I fiddled with" ~~~interesting answer!

I was just trying to determine if it was your pop-up blocker that might be some of the problem,...
... so you use 'the fiddle method' to upload pixs & vids, thats nice. I personally use 'make another cup of coffee method' in this way I feel like I'm multitasking while waiting for my pix to upload.

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