anyone growing NJ Tea w Black Walnut?

[JennyC]

Thanks for the link, bubbleoffplumb. It says:

"Species that are sensitive to juglone will exhibit symptoms such as wilting and yellowing of the foliage."

My tomatoes showed no signs of yellowing, just happy plants, few tomatoes. I think it's just that Rutgers doesn't like me. I'd suspected that all along.

I can vouch that the site is correct about iris being tolerant. I have them blooming now in the shade from a black walnut. Also Virginia creeper -- perfectly tolerant, just like the link says. Sadly, this also applies to poison ivy (a real problem under my clothesline this year). Now, if the walnuts were going to kill something, why couldn't it be the poison ivy?

[amelanchier]

There's a black walnut seedling pushing up through my neighbors' privet hedge. Privets are juglone-sensitive.

[NEWisc]

You could casually mention to your neighbor that black walnut lumber is worth a fortune.

[amelanchier]

Originally Posted by NEWisc

You could casually mention to your neighbor that black walnut lumber is worth a fortune.

I don't think they'll even notice the seedling until it's too late, but I'll keep that one in the back pocket just in case.

[Equilibrium]

Could the privet... er uh... have an accident? I mean could it get attacked by some rare privet borer that is so difficult to detect the owner hardly notices it until his plants are in severe decline... coincidentally, the damage from the rare privet borer looks a lot like herbicide overspray. Wear black stretch plants/a black turtleneck/face mask/black cotton gloves (dipped in glyphosate of course) and go out in the middle of the night and examine your neighbors hedge by feeling it all up from front to back. Be one with the ever so elusive privet borer... don't forget to stick a baggie over the seedling... must avoid drips.

[amelanchier]

Originally Posted by Equilibrium

Could the privet... er uh... have an accident? I mean could it get attacked by some rare privet borer that is so difficult to detect the owner hardly notices it until his plants are in severe decline... coincidentally, the damage from the rare privet borer looks a lot like herbicide overspray. Wear black stretch plants/a black turtleneck/face mask/black cotton gloves (dipped in glyphosate of course) and go out in the middle of the night and examine your neighbors hedge by feeling it all up from front to back. Be one with the ever so elusive privet borer... don't forget to stick a baggie over the seedling... must avoid drips.

Ha ha! Don't think I haven't had ideas! I did ask them last year whether they would mind if I went over to their side of the yard to weed under the hedge from time to time. "You're welcome to," she said, "but I think all we have under there is periwinkle and lily-of-the-valley." I smiled and said, "I'll leave a few lilies-of-the-valley if you like."

So this past weekend I took that permission to "weed under the hedge" to mean that I could also go back there and chop on some Amur honeysuckle, painting the stems with concentrated herbicide. It's "weeding," right?? Now, actually "weeding the hedge" might require a bit more discussion!

[JennyC]

Originally Posted by amelanchier

There's a black walnut seedling pushing up through my neighbors' privet hedge. Privets are juglone-sensitive.

I hope it helps. We have a serious privet problem here, and I hadn't noticed before, but it's better under the black walnuts. There's some privet, but not the monoculture jungles we have in other horse-inaccessible areas.

By the way, horses provide nearly complete privet control. Now, if I could just convince them they liked Japanese honeysuckle...

[will-o-wisp]

Ah amelanchier, I sympathize with your next door weeding. I asked my neighbor the same question about "weeding" the ivy under their privet hedge. This might be my last chance since they are have sold the house.

Three days latter I'm only half way through. This time I'm covering the soil with a black landscape cloth. I had to remove a number of other nasties that were in the way and trim the hedge way back off my fence.

Guess what was growing under the ivy on the sunny side? Mint.

I just happened to add a native Rosa virginiana in a little opening accidentally. Maybe they need a black walnut in the hedgerow?

Speaking of NJ tea mine frequently suffer die back over the winter and resprout from the base. I have 2 close together. One did this and the other didn't this year. Is this normal?

[bubbleoffplumb]

will-o-wisp
I don't have any personal experience with the plant yet - just planted a few.
according to NPIN: Ceanothus americanus (New jersey tea)

The base is woody, while the upper portion of the plant is made up of herbaceous, spreading branches

I love all this chit chat about covert operations to slay the dreaded privet

[Equilibrium]

Ya, that constitutes weeding amelanchier. Those amur honeysuckles look alot like privet don't you think? I do. Could you have a few accidents or do you think they'd catch on? I wanted so badly to go out and waste some of my neighbors' burning bushes you have no idea. Every other house has a pair of them flanking their front door and they're all breeding with each other and the offspring is ending up by me. I have experience with NJ Tea. I've not experienced the dieback you mention. My plants came from a local nursery that propagated them from local seed. Where did your plants come from? They could have come from a TN tree farm. That might explain some of the dieback otherwise I don't know.