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Old 11-26-2013, 07:25 PM   #31
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Oh, Equilibrium! Here are your seeds. They just happen to still be enclosed in that purple dye capsule. . . .
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:18 AM   #32
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Oh, Equilibrium! Here are your seeds. They just happen to still be enclosed in that purple dye capsule. . . .
Yay, they can do double duty! Maybe she'll dye some yarn and knit you something in exchange for your seeds. ~wink~.

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willo> Sorry sorry sorry.... I totally missed this, "Equil, next year I'll need to do something about the cabbage moths. Maybe nets are in my future. Do you squish them after capture?" The cabbage moths are bad by me too.... real bad but if we can remove enough breeders from the population or somehow draw them away from our veggies.... we're that much farther ahead of the game. I dunno if a net is in your future though. You have too many nice plants that would get in the way of you going after them and well.... from what I saw.... you're on the injured list and I for sure don't think you should be running around after cabbage moths with a net like I did!!! That's all you'd need is to trip going after a cabbage moth impaling yourself on a piece of garden art. Do you have a corner park anywhere within a block or so of your house or a vacant lot? I can't remember if you do. I need to know.... I've got an idea!!!
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Dappy> misery does NOT love company when it comes to weather like what we've been having at this time of year. I sure hope you did what we did and added snacks, boots, a blanket, some cat litter and.... a snow shovel to your trunk!!! You never know when you're gonna end up off the road in a ditch!!! Oh.... and bite your tongue about me dying yarn!!! I've got 4 gift scarfs to add 2' a piece to so they'll be long enough for the people I knitted them for and it's been so long.... I've got to go back to the knitting classes because I forgot how to do the stitches!!!
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biig> Ya know.... the pulp was already removed from the malabar seeds I'd planted. I've never grown malabar spinach before so didn't know the berries were black. Now I get the little whistling smiley!!!! I went outside in the dark and pinched off some Aronia seed for you so I wouldn't forget. I'm gonna wrap them up in something "special" for you. When you get them.... remove the pulp then make sure they get about 90 days of moist cold stratification.... your frig will work just fine. I'd just sow the seeds where you want them to grow after they're done being stratified. They like full sun.... can tolerate some shade and they'd love being planted by your pond. Not too close to the water.... up about a foot along the bank should be perfect. The berries are from a cultivar so odds are real good they're going to revert to type. If you're not ok with that.... remind me to get some softwood cuttings for you late next spring after they've started active growth. They're pretty easy to propagate from cuttings and that way you'd get a clone with the large fruits.
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jack> I don't get worked up over screw ups like that any more. Stupid is as stupid does. I did really want to try the malabar spinach in a few recipes though.... maybe next year. Ya know what I'm really getting addicted to>>>? Swiss chard. Man oh man.... I've been eating that raw ripping whole leaves off the plant and stuffing them in my face. Kohlrabi is a good garden snack too..... all you have to do is rip 1 out of the ground and run it under the hose and voila! Another garden snack!!! Come to think of it.... I'll snitch some sweet bell peppers and eat those raw every once in a while for a change of pace. I've moved well beyond snitching my own asparagus and tomatoes when I'm outside and get rumblies in my tummy!!!
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Congrats Equill.....You've graduated and have joined the ranks of our forefathers. You're now a true blue grazer!
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jack> I don't get worked up over screw ups like that any more. Stupid is as stupid does. I did really want to try the malabar spinach in a few recipes though.... maybe next year. Ya know what I'm really getting addicted to>>>? Swiss chard. Man oh man.... I've been eating that raw ripping whole leaves off the plant and stuffing them in my face. Kohlrabi is a good garden snack too..... all you have to do is rip 1 out of the ground and run it under the hose and voila! Another garden snack!!! Come to think of it.... I'll snitch some sweet bell peppers and eat those raw every once in a while for a change of pace. I've moved well beyond snitching my own asparagus and tomatoes when I'm outside and get rumblies in my tummy!!!
Yea, I too love freshly picked raw swiss chard. Amazingly enough, until I began growing it, I had never, to my knowledge, tasted it before. Now, throughout the summer I make smoothies with it, as it has a mild taste that is more apt to take on the taste of stronger flavored ingredients, like the frozen blueberries and bananas and cacao that I add, along with other goodies like parsley and spinach.

But, alas, I picked the final remnants of my chard earlier this week. It has just gotten too cold here. Even my Russian Red Kale has succumbed to the dark season...
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:04 AM   #36
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The berries are from a cultivar so odds are real good they're going to revert to type. If you're not ok with that . ..
I'm fine with that. If they're big enough to pick - good for me. If they're too small to bother with, good for the critters.

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Ya know what I'm really getting addicted to>>>? Swiss chard.
I don't know if your chickens told you yet, but they LOOOOOOVVVVE swiss chard. I would give them the ones with bug holes in them, and they were quite happy with that arrangement.
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Yay, they can do double duty! Maybe she'll dye some yarn and knit you something in exchange for your seeds. ~wink~.
The berry juice is used as a dye and an ink in some countries. It's an intense purple.

That's right - she's into knitting. She can grow her own purple dye, and someone near her raises alpaca. In a year or two, everyone in town will have lovely purple wool caps. . .
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Hey, Equil, there aren't any vacant lots or parks in close range, only the schoolyard and playing fields.
I've already tried with others planting the perimeter of the schoolyard with natives. What my neighbor didn't remove (including tree guards and fencing as well as trees) and the kids didn't pull out the PTA eliminated.
I never saw a PTA I liked, a reckless bunch of type A personalities with way too much time on their hands and too little knowledge in their heads.
If that sounds somewhat mean it was a lot of work they destroyed and now thanks to them I live with a school building that is illuminated like a big box store all night.
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biig> if you're ok with them reverting to type.... no problemo. And.... my chickens are feathered phiranhas.... they love everything I "share" with them.
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willo> Ohh.... I'm sure there's a few decent PTAs out there.... somewhere. I've never run into any yet though.
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Ok.... I was thinking along the lines of pheremone traps for you since you're really not gonna be able to leap around your garden with net in hand without doing serious damage to your plants or yourself. Unfortunately.... it's not sounding like there's any place to hang them that would be at least a block away from your property yet still accessible to you. Pheremone traps WORK and.... they work well but.... you wouldn't want them hanging on your property otherwise you'd be doing all your neighbors a big fat favor. Here's where I buy most of my traps cheap for future reference, Trece Lures & Kits. 3 woulda been sufficient if.... you coulda hung them in locations where you woulda been drawing them AWAY from your food crops NOT to them. Oh well... so much for my "brilliant" idea.... what about diatomaceous earth or a few pitfall traps and maybe.... just maybe.... your able bodied husband could spare some time running around netting a few?
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About what I did with the small cabbage white moths I caught in my net.... I don't want to sound gross but... my friends pinch off or cut off their wings then feed them to their chickens. My chickens gobble them up like candy and will stand around waiting for me to drop more on the ground for them. I could have put them in a ziplock baggie in my freezer and added them to my composter after about a week or so but.... they're a decent source of protein for my goils so.... waste not want not.
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