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Old 04-12-2012, 02:27 PM   #1
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Do you believe that preppers are a few cards short of a full deck? Do you assume that anyone that is "preparing for doomsday" does not have their elevator going all the way to the top floor? Well, you might want to read this first before you make a final decision that all preppers are crazy. The information that you are about to read shook me up a bit when I first looked it over. To be honest, I had no idea how incredibly vulnerable our economic system is to a transportation disruption.
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The truth is that our "just in time" inventory and delivery systems leave us incredibly vulnerable to a nationwide disaster.

You see, it is very expensive to hold and store inventory, so most manufacturers and retailers rely on a continual flow of deliveries that are scheduled to arrive "just in time", and this significantly reduces their operating expenses.

This is considered to be good business practice for manufacturers and retailers, but it also means that if there was a major nationwide transportation disruption that our economic system would grind to a halt almost immediately.

Once store shelves are picked clean, they would not be able to be replenished until trucks could get back on the road. In the event of a major nationwide disaster, that could be...
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Preppers are smart cookies, the see the fortune and prepare! Stock, gleen and grow !
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Preppers are smart cookies, the see the fortune and prepare! Stock, gleen and grow !
In such an apocalytic scenario, would you share your stash with starving neighbors? If not, would you defend your supply with lethal force? Just being prepared at home doesn't necessarily mean the problem, God forbid it happens, is solved. Real preparation may better be served with a thorough study of living off the weeds and roots of the land. Learning in detail what is edible that gows in the wilds of your vicinity could keep one alive and protect from a marauding horde of starving people.

This would be an extreme example, but if one is preparing, one would want to consider such a scenario.
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I think lots of folk assume all preppers are doomsdayers or way out in left field preparing for every possible scenario under the sun because of what's getting shown on tv. I saw a part of 1 of those programs and one lady and her wife who'd had a sex change operation were stock piling all kinds of oddball things which included a supply of transgender hormone replacement drugs and I think some hair dyes and I couldn't help but think.... if a flood wipes through their town and the woman's floating down river along with some debris.... will anyone trying to fish her out care if she's got a little stubble or her "roots" are showing as long as she lives>>>? I think off the wall preppers are in the minority.... most are probably like me..... they're believers in "prepping" to become more self reliant and to get ahead of inflation what with the cost of groceries going through the ceiling and I definitely think ordinary folk are paying attention to all the supercell tornadoes ripping across the US and say whaaaaaaat.... another foot of snow out west earlier this week>>>? I'm sure that didn't slip by unnoticed with more load warnings posted for those folk. There's an article on when trucks stop that's definitely worth reading and I'm pretty sure I posted it for Dappy somewhere but he musta missed it, http://www.trucking.org/Newsroom/Trucks%20Are. It's the water mentioned in that article that unnerves me. I totally wasn't making the connection that without the chemicals to treat our water... it wouldn't be able to be purified and we'd run out of drinkable water in no time flat. Just when I thought a 3 mos supply of food was plenty and then... I read that article. If anyone doesn't believe me that having no water is a big time problem that tends to make people uglier than if they're going hungry.... try a test... pretend the handles on your toilets don't work and none of the spigots in your house have water and see how well you hold up for a week. We've gone without water before and... it sucked. We blew through all the water in my rain barrels in under a week. I've got water storage containers downstairs now.... plenty to drink, cook with, flush toilets, brush teeth, and wash up a few loads of laundry for a few weeks... storing more than that won't happen since I don't have the space.
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jack> "In such an apocalytic scenario, would you share your stash with starving neighbors? If not, would you defend your supply with lethal force? Just being prepared at home doesn't necessarily mean the problem, God forbid it happens, is solved." God forbid is right. I've thought about it a little.... I'm not gonna dwell on it because in such a scenario.... we'd all be toast. What I did think about is sharing my "stash" as you call it. For sure.... I would. You know why.... because it's the right thing to do and I've shared before when we've flooded out and when our power's been down and now the 2 families we shared with are hopefully putting some things away and who knows....maybe they're telling their friends and family what happened to them so others will put a few things aside and what are these stashes for exactly>>>? They're for emergency use so after what ever happens passes.... we build up our "stash" again. Now.... if our economy goes beyond tanking and actually collapses like quite a few folk are predicting and it starts looking like we're up against a long span of hard times.... well then I guess I'd still find something to share but I'd have to think about me and mine 1st so we'd probably get out of dodge fast. What about you? Do you have a little stash going or are you gonna rely on wildcrafting? Are you a sharing kinda guy or a lethal force kinda guy? Just curious.
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Oh oh ohhhhh…. check this out,
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In such an apocalytic scenario, would you share your stash with starving neighbors? If not, would you defend your supply with lethal force? Just being prepared at home doesn't necessarily mean the problem, God forbid it happens, is solved. Real preparation may better be served with a thorough study of living off the weeds and roots of the land. Learning in detail what is edible that gows in the wilds of your vicinity could keep one alive and protect from a marauding horde of starving people.

This would be an extreme example, but if one is preparing, one would want to consider such a scenario.
There is strength in sharing to some yes, but I'm not going into detail as to what I have, what force I will use, and so fourth, I'm not on doomsday preppers and willing to share with tou any info .Equilibrium knows me and knows what I would and would not do. And how would you know if I'm " just being prepared" lol. Or what I have, what guns I own and what i would do to protect my self and family.Preppers are not about being just food hoarders, some are smart enough to know what's edible around them, and so fourth .
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Oh oh ohhhhh…. check this out,
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Saw this video the first time my eyes were opened. Good video, and I read lights out, great book. Opened my eyes further.
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I think lots of folk assume all preppers are doomsdayers or way out in left field preparing for every possible scenario under the sun because of what's getting shown on tv. I saw a part of 1 of those programs and one lady and her wife who'd had a sex change operation were stock piling all kinds of oddball things which included a supply of transgender hormone replacement drugs and I think some hair dyes and I couldn't help but think.... if a flood wipes through their town and the woman's floating down river along with some debris.... will anyone trying to fish her out care if she's got a little stubble or her "roots" are showing as long as she lives>>>? I think off the wall preppers are in the minority.... most are probably like me..... they're believers in "prepping" to become more self reliant and to get ahead of inflation what with the cost of groceries going through the ceiling and I definitely think ordinary folk are paying attention to all the supercell tornadoes ripping across the US and say whaaaaaaat.... another foot of snow out west earlier this week>>>? I'm sure that didn't slip by unnoticed with more load warnings posted for those folk. There's an article on when trucks stop that's definitely worth reading and I'm pretty sure I posted it for Dappy somewhere but he musta missed it, http://www.trucking.org/Newsroom/Trucks%20Are. It's the water mentioned in that article that unnerves me. I totally wasn't making the connection that without the chemicals to treat our water... it wouldn't be able to be purified and we'd run out of drinkable water in no time flat. Just when I thought a 3 mos supply of food was plenty and then... I read that article. If anyone doesn't believe me that having no water is a big time problem that tends to make people uglier than if they're going hungry.... try a test... pretend the handles on your toilets don't work and none of the spigots in your house have water and see how well you hold up for a week. We've gone without water before and... it sucked. We blew through all the water in my rain barrels in under a week. I've got water storage containers downstairs now.... plenty to drink, cook with, flush toilets, brush teeth, and wash up a few loads of laundry for a few weeks... storing more than that won't happen since I don't have the space.
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jack> "In such an apocalytic scenario, would you share your stash with starving neighbors? If not, would you defend your supply with lethal force? Just being prepared at home doesn't necessarily mean the problem, God forbid it happens, is solved." God forbid is right. I've thought about it a little.... I'm not gonna dwell on it because in such a scenario.... we'd all be toast. What I did think about is sharing my "stash" as you call it. For sure.... I would. You know why.... because it's the right thing to do and I've shared before when we've flooded out and when our power's been down and now the 2 families we shared with are hopefully putting some things away and who knows....maybe they're telling their friends and family what happened to them so others will put a few things aside and what are these stashes for exactly>>>? They're for emergency use so after what ever happens passes.... we build up our "stash" again. Now.... if our economy goes beyond tanking and actually collapses like quite a few folk are predicting and it starts looking like we're up against a long span of hard times.... well then I guess I'd still find something to share but I'd have to think about me and mine 1st so we'd probably get out of dodge fast. What about you? Do you have a little stash going or are you gonna rely on wildcrafting? Are you a sharing kinda guy or a lethal force kinda guy? Just curious.

Equil, in an apocalypse, I'd be one of the first to go. No firearms, no food supply,and no preparation for water supplies. Sad to say, all of that is true. If things got really bad and gangs were roaming the neighborhoods stealing food from those with forethought, I guess I'd rather not be around anyway. Also, those who feel that their shotguns and AK 47's would protect them and their family may be kidding themselves. Who would want to raise a family while shooting hungry neighbors and instructing their children to do the same???

BTW, that guy in the film? I'm glad I don't know him and wouldn't want help from the likes of him anyway... I saw a crazed look in his eye at times that I've avoided all of my life. If the successful ones after a catastrophic event were all like him, who'd want to still be around???

Of course, I'm talking a total breakdown of supplies. Otherwise, I guess I'd pay the inflated food costs, wear coats in the house, and pay exorbitant rates for water. In summer, I'd garden - I do save seeds from year to year. But I'd be one hungry dude, and I wouldn't be up at night guarding my swiss chard, either - I'd be sleeping and dreaming of better times...
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jack> I hear ya. I seriously doubt we’re staring down an apocalypse scenario but I could see hyperinflation or a catastrophic weather event doing a number on us. As a country, we’re not in any position to withstand either since many of us are buried in debt living paycheck to paycheck and it’s not exactly like we’re an agrarian society as we were during the Great Depression. I think most of us realize a "Greater Depression" and economic collapse are possible…. I don’t think we’d be on our own indefinitely but we’d all be on our own at least until order was restored and the trucks started rolling again. I'd really like to think most of the prominent economists are all wrong but.... it’s looking more and more as if they’re not off their rockers like I originally thought they were so here’s hoping we continue sinking lower and lower so we can adjust on the way down instead of having 1 major SHTF event.
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No firearms, no food supply,and no preparation for water supplies. Sad to say, all of that is true. Sad to say we’re not in the greatest shape either. Worthless dogs…. no gold…. no silver…. a BB gun for shooting starlings and house sparrows that’s in the kitchen and a 22 the kids used for Boy Scouts that’s around here somewhere. We're in a county where it's illegal to discharge a firearm so I don’t see any point to buying anything with more oomph. Why? So it could get taken away from us if they go house to house like they did disarming folk trying to stay put in their own homes after Hurricane Katrina>>>? The contents of my house and the house itself just aren’t worth it to me. I’d rather spend $$$ on a coupla cords of wood to keep the pipes in our house from freezing than on an oozie (sp?) or something. What would anyone get from us if they did try to loot or rob us…. my wedding ring…. take it…. I’m still married whether there’s a ring on my hand or not. Artwork on the walls…. that’s laughable… there’d be no market for anything like that. Our tv set…. it’s 5 years old. It’s not even a big screen and there’d be no market for that either. My computer is 6 years old…. who’d want it. My laptop…. It’s 2 years old so it's already "dated" too. I’m looking around my house and I’m just not seeing anything worth dying to protect. 5 gallon buckets of animal feed (yum yum)…. they could rob of us those. How about our shelves of home canned meats and dehydrated veggies and fruits>>>? They wouldn’t even know what to do with them if they took em. Do you realize how few of us actually cook meals from scratch anymore? Those gangs would get inside this house and think we were hiding something on em which is why I said I’d get out of dodge fast if it looked like we were up against a long term span of hard times…. we’re lovers not fighters here.
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Who would want to raise a family while shooting hungry neighbors and instructing their children to do the same???” Most with younger children…. there are oodles of folk who believe where there is life…. there is hope. Parents will protect their kids even if they have to do it with a baseball bat or a kitchen knife and I’d be more afraid of them trying to find a way to feed their young than any gang. We’re all capable of the unspeakable if backed into a corner with no way out.
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I REALLY REALLY wish you would put together a little stash of food and water even if it's just a month’s worth. If you're close to a big city like we are.... then maybe a 3 mos supply would be something to set your sights on. Just start by putting away a week’s worth of food you normally eat is all and that way when you rotate it out regularly…. it’ll never go to waste. Think of those half a million+ folk out your way in and around Springfield who went without power last fall when they were slammed with those snow storms for what... almost a month>>>? The world’s a much nicer place with you in it and…. why be “one hungry dude” if you can avoid it?
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The guy in the short video had many valid points and he’s not preparing for an apocalypse…. he’s just trying to be more self reliant by growing more of his own food and suggesting everyone grow more of their own food to reduce our dependencies on other countries. He mentioned the same things you did to doozer about having to be prepared to defend what you have and he said he has a handgun of some sort but he didn’t strike me as the type looking for trouble…. just a parent who wants to make sure if something does happen that his kids eat. For what it's worth.... I totally believe an armed society is a polite society though and there's a lot of farmers and hunters who are armed.... it's not just the bad guys with firearms once you get away from the big cities which is another good reason to get out of dodge fast if you’re near a large city and it’s looking like a breakdown in supplies is gonna last longer than a few weeks.
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The guy in the short video had many valid points and he’s not preparing for an apocalypse…. he’s just trying to be more self reliant by growing more of his own food and suggesting everyone grow more of their own food to reduce our dependencies on other countries. He mentioned the same things you did to doozer about having to be prepared to defend what you have and he said he has a handgun of some sort but he didn’t strike me as the type looking for trouble…. just a parent who wants to make sure if something does happen that his kids eat. For what it's worth.... I totally believe an armed society is a polite society though and there's a lot of farmers and hunters who are armed.... it's not just the bad guys with firearms once you get away from the big cities which is another good reason to get out of dodge fast if you’re near a large city and it’s looking like a breakdown in supplies is gonna last longer than a few weeks.[/FONT]
How one says something is as important as what one says. Why was he so defensively aggressive? Why was he obsessed with footprints in his back woods? Does he live in a war zone? Being out there with a firearm, as he was, seems to me to be more than prudent. Granted I live in rural MA while he lives in ??? Here, there are neighbors cutting through my property way in back all of the time. If I went back with a firearm and made a video of who made the footprints, I'd be deemed a danger to society - and I would be...

Okay. i'll get a gallon of water and save it in the cellar - then I'll ration between myself and my African Grey. Actually, he'd last longer than I would with water. I do have many bags of his favorite seed; they were on sale!!!

I'll get some cans of Annie's soups in cans. Thing is, if it doesn't happen - I'll never eat the soup!!! What a waste!!! But then, insurance is always results in a waste when one didn't need it.
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