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Old 12-06-2013, 01:38 PM   #41
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Omg, wildwatcher! You're right! POM rules wouldn't be a problem but if the mayapples are not native to the area of the winner, I could see that being an issue.

WG Admin, will the mayapple rootlets be allowed? I have no idea of where they are native nor do I know yet where the yet-to-be chosen winner lives.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:37 PM   #42
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Thanks, kchd.

I knew it had a large range, but I had no clue it was that wide!

I know not everyone is as concerned about preserving the genetically unique local populations, but another concern I have is the spread of disease or pests. I guess I liken it to the idea of not transporting firewood to prevent the spread of emerald ash borer...one never knows what kind of pest or pathogen might be spread.

I'm really not trying to be difficult.
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Love that second picture.... THink I'll steal it for my screensaver...
Wow... Screensaver worthy. First time someone's ever said that about one of my very own. You are more than welcome to use it as such.
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:51 PM   #45
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Seriously, I'm thinkin' that bluejay is waiting on some mayapple rootlets
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Dap, I hadn't thought of pathogen risk.
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Thanks, kchd.

I knew it had a large range, but I had no clue it was that wide!

I know not everyone is as concerned about preserving the genetically unique local populations, but another concern I have is the spread of disease or pests. I guess I liken it to the idea of not transporting firewood to prevent the spread of emerald ash borer...one never knows what kind of pest or pathogen might be spread.

I'm really not trying to be difficult.
dap, you raise a valid point, but I'm not sure it is any more of a risk than buying them from a nursery. I suspect it could, at times, be more risky sourcing from a nursery if for no other reason than the practice of typically having a greater density of plants crammed together than what one would normally find in nature. I could see that increasing the potential for disease to spread among stressed plants.

I think if you want to be extra careful, seeds are the way to go.
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Dap, I hadn't thought of pathogen risk.
Thanks for not making me feel like a jerk.

I still think it is a very generous offer from wildwatcher. I just want us to think about the consequences of moving even wide-ranging natives so far from where a particular indigenous plant or population evolved.

Also, as is often the case, I am thinking of this forum as more than the current members...I figure others looking for information stumble across our postings all of the time...and I expect this site to continue long into the future, so I want the information here to be as accurate and far-reaching as possible.
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Well all I can say is, if in doubt...go without! hahaha I did mention earlier that these are bare roots, washed, then soaked in a 10% diluted bleach solution, rinsed again a couple times with clean water, then bagged for shipping. A person might rinse upon receipt of the rootlets again in diluted bleach water solution...to stave off any disease transfer, or a simple 'no thank you' will avoid shipment completely, but if the winner chooses they will still get the $9.00 prize (the estimate cost of shipping), or I can donate the $9.00 to WG...respecting the prizewinner's choice should be straight forward, from my viewpoint.

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I did mention earlier that these are bare roots, washed, then soaked in a 10% diluted bleach solution, rinsed again a couple times with clean water, then bagged for shipping.
Pest and pathogen transmission sounds much less likely after reading that.

So, then, whoever the winner is can decide whether or not it is a good idea to introduce the DNA of specimens that evolved in an area with widely different seasonal temperatures and precipitation amounts than where they live...keeping in mind that they will forever change the genetics of local populations.


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Well all I can say is, if in doubt...go without!
wildwatcher, thank you so much for not taking this personally.
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