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Emissions from shipping making ocean more acidic, researchers report
PhysOrg May 16, 2016 Emissions from shipping making ocean more acidic, researchers report excerpt from above: Quote:
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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We are in such denial that we measure high CO2 levels and decide not to worry since soon the deciduous trees will leaf out and absorb all the extra CO2.
What the denialist's don't realize or fail to recognize is the oceans are absorbing CO2 year-round Most Americans don't want to hear it but it's time for a carbon tax
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"Most Americans don't want to hear it but it's time for a carbon tax" It's coming.... I'm sure of it... they'll slip in even more bits and pieces while we're sleeping every chance they get and then once enough of the groundwork has been laid.... they'll peg us with the rest of it. I'd be for carbon taxes if they'd use them to right ecological wrongs but.... their actions... both past and present speak volume to me. The elite.... have no intentions whatsoever of using the "fruits" of any cap and trade legislation or carbon taxes to preserve anything for future generations.... they'll use it to enslave humanity and humanity's lands.... it's a power "thang" IMO being played out in theaters all around us on a daily basis so..... you go ahead and volunteer to get taxed ahead of schedule and I'll sit back and see how it goes.
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Funny with all the energy that the Oil and Fracking Companies say is right under our feet they don't tell you how energy intensive it is to separate it from the sands[tar sands] or removing it from rock fissures [fracking] I don't like hearing that it takes 2 barrels to remove 5 barrels of Crude.
Maybe if BP was honest about what it was doing in the Western Plains people wouldn't be against the pipeline but lying about how many jobs it would create or who was going to benefit didn't help their cause. People didn't want big oil benefiting and they get steam-rolled. Maybe this sounds Socialist to you, But maybe we need a little Socialism when it comes to energy extraction...After all we all own and care for the land.
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“I don't like hearing that it takes 2 barrels to remove 5 barrels of Crude.” Me either especially when that’s basically the only “cost” they’re acknowledging because the energy required to extract energy couldn’t be kept a “secret”. How mighty righteous of them allowing that disclosure… as if they had any say so in the release of that data…. but…. what about all the other costs they’re not disclosing so they can get on with the business of drilling and fracking for their global “stakeholders” and “partners”>>>? Those “costs” aren’t disclosed because BP… and all the others…. are about as “transparent” as the Bozo Brothers Obama and Bush… and the Koch Brothers….. they aren’t transparent at all… they only tell us what they can’t hide so they can keep on gaming the system. They all speaketh with forked tongues because they’re all fully vested in the carbon exchanges….. they're all going to profit from the buying and selling of pieces of paper that grant rights to pollute.
-- Naa…. I don’t believe any form of socialism is the answer…. I have a personal friend and 2 relatives who feel very strongly that there’s no other way but…. I don’t. You definitely sound like someone who’s frustrated but it’s obvious you sincerely care and…. I’d vote for you if you ran for president because … someone like you would do 1000% better by humans and our lands than what we keep getting in the oval office. As far as all of us owning and caring for the land…. little people like you and me and the people we “hang” with may feel that way and we’ll do our best to be good stewards but the elite and their partners don’t and…. they never will….until…. there’s no lands left to appropriate and exploit for their greater good or until they’re behind bars. Some newbie just posted this in another thread, “In the US, laws exist to prosecute crimes involving endangerment of health and crimes related to false marketing practices. These laws are on the books. When it comes to Monsanto, they're gathering dust on the shelves.” IMO…. the same holds true for BP, Chevron, Pemex, Royal Dutch Shell, Petrobras, Exxon, PetroChina, Canadian Oil Sands and…. BigOil in general….. we shouldn’t be accepting their science as “fact” either….. our ABC agencies should be conducting independent research into what the long term human health and environmental impacts are and…. they’re not. The sooner we start demanding that our “public servants” begin “dusting off” the laws we have and using them…. the sooner we can start treating BigChem and BigOil and BigPharma like the criminals they are and…. the sooner the world will be a much nicer place. Seriously….. why on God’s green earth are we allowing any BigAnythings to conduct their own assessments expecting anything less than findings of no significant human health or environmental impacts? -- Did anyone know that, “In 2012, Canadian Oil Sands Limited was named to the Dow Jones Sustainability Index (DJSI) North America for the third consecutive year. Companies are selected for the DJSI based on an annual assessment of their economic performance, environmental strategy, corporate governance, stakeholder engagement and community investment”, Canadian Oil Sands - Sustainability. Read it yourself. Notable sustainable accomplishments that qualified them for carbon credits after having obliterated entire ecosystems were…..
If not the U.S. then, where might Alberta’s oil sands go? China. Two months before threatening Washington Harper told a Chinese audience that if Washington did not want Canadian oil, his government would be happy to sell it to China, telling his audience, “We are an emerging energy superpower. We have abundant supplies of virtually every form of energy. And you know, we want to sell our energy to people who want to buy our energy. It’s that simple.” The only problem with supplying China would be the construction of the westward flowing Northern Gateway pipeline to the British Columbia, which has already engendered significant indigenous opposition. So, back to square one.” -- Back to square 1 for Canada means back to trying to pipe their “product” through our lands not their lands. And….their Prime Minister claims the US…. is their 1 and only energy partner>>>? And…. he is acting like we’re the ONLY 1s trying to say no to them piping their energy products through our lands when their own indigenous people said no to piping it through Canadian lands and now all the sudden they have to diversify their energy export markets because of American citizens not because of their own citizens that said no>>>? Sounds like their Prime Minister has some serious memory recall issues and isn’t fit to be their Prime Minister if somehow the opposition from Canadian Indigenous people just slipped his mind. -- Speaking of tar sands and hidden “costs”, here’s an ecological wrong that needs to be righted, Koch Brothers Dump Three-Story Pile of Toxic Byproduct on Detroit, Koch Brothers Dump Three-Story Pile of Toxic Byproduct on Detroit | Occupy.com, "Petroleum coke is a byproduct of the refinery process of the tar sands oil, which leaves refineries with a huge amount of the coke after it sends the oil onward. The coke usually just piles up (Canada has 79.8 million tons stockpiled), because it's a dirty, and mostly inefficient energy source. But the industrialist/harbingers of the apocalypse Koch Brothers had a better idea: why not sell this high-sulfur, high-carbon waste to countries that don't care about the environment?.... And that's exactly what they did. “It comes down to emission controls,” D. Mark Routt, an energy consultant, told the Times. “Other people don’t seem to have a problem, which is why it is going to Mexico, which is why it is going to China.”…. But first it's precariously piling up in Detroit. “What is really, really disturbing to me is how some companies treat the city of Detroit as a dumping ground,” said Rashida Tlaib, a Michigan state representative. “Nobody knew this was going to happen.” Nobody knew that Americans living in Detroit were gonna get treated like 2nd class citizens, eh? Sorry…. I don’t buy it. It’s yet another cost of doing business that wasn’t disclosed to us. We can count on even more Americans being treated like 2nd class citizens by the multinationals if our elected public servants let that Keystone XL Pipeline through for "jobs". Our lands will get ripped apart clearing a path for that pipeline from Canada all the way down to the Gulf and all the oil will be sold overseas to “developing” countries per the UN while even more filthy dirty 2 story high petroleum coke piles will be allowed to dot our countryside and…. Canadian Oil Sands will get global accolades AND carbon credits for any cosmetic repairs and revegetation done to land they pipe through…. all in the name of “sustainable” development. Isn’t that special…. our lands will get ripped to shreds and they’ll walk with carbon credits so they can fund their next project. It’s a twisted world we live in when the development they’re proposing is labeled “sustainable” by the UN. Here’s hoping the US tells em to pound salt. If Canada wants to sell their oil to developing countries so bad… let them plow through and rip up their lands beyond recognition creating a pipeline and let them dot their countryside with their coke piles…. NOT ours. There’s nothing in this “deal” for ordinary Americans except an even bigger clean up bill for future generations of us. -- And…. the UN’s World Bank… that just happens to be part of the sunshine and socialism for everyone camp….. has been right there by their side from the beginning assisting them with their economic impact assessment (SEIA)…. you read that right…. economic not ecological impact assessment…. so they could secure their cut of the carbon offset trading proceeds, http://rsc-src.ca/sites/default/files/pdf/RSC_ExP_ExecutiveSummary_ENG_Dec14_10_FINAL_v5.pdf. -- I’ve come to the conclusion it’s not a good idea believing BigAnything’s “science” or the “press release” versions of anything the mainstream Media puts out for the huddled masses.
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What an "unholy" alliance. Monsanto is evil.... totally evil and we need to start treating the people at their helm like the criminals they are because.... I've said it before and I'll say it again.... they're like pedophiles.... they're not going to quit destroying the environment until they're behind bars.
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Trans-Pacific Partnership and Monsanto
Barbara Chicherio NationofChange Op-Ed Published: Monday 24 June 2013 Trans-Pacific Partnership and Monsanto | NationofChange excerpts from above: Quote:
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Monsanto, the TPP, and Global Food Dominance
Posted on November 26, 2013 by Ellen Brown http://ellenbrown.com/2013/11/26/monsanto-the-tpp-and-global-food-dominance/ excerpts from above: Quote:
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