H.R. 875: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009 - Page 3 - Wildlife Gardeners

misskimmie · 03-19-2009, 07:23 AM

FYI, nonprofit is a tax status (501c..) and the organization may or may not be profitable. On the flip side, even if an enterprise ( a small business or backyard chicken coop is "not profitable" ie. doesn't show a net gain in income, that doesn't mean that it is "nonprofit".

biigblueyes · 03-19-2009, 07:29 AM

I took "non profit food establishment" to include soup kitchens.

Equilibrium · 03-19-2009, 10:34 PM

There are non profits that aren't tax exempt too. All the way around this H.R. 875 is a raw deal.

LadySapphire22 · 03-20-2009, 07:09 AM

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All the way around this H.R. 875 is a raw deal.

Except for Monsanto that is. Yet another example of let's screw over the "peons"

Stoloniferous · 03-20-2009, 10:13 AM

Thanks for clarifying, guys.

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Of course, if the bill is not a product of hysteria, the only other possibility is that it is profoundly corrupt. A sop to agribusinesses who don't like to see us growing our own beans rather than buying them from Green Giant.

Stoloniferous · 03-20-2009, 10:16 AM

More info! Haven't read it yet, but posting it here to share. . .

Background on H.R. 875 — Food & Water Watch

Stoloniferous · 03-20-2009, 10:23 AM

Here is a small farmer's take on the bill: Roberts Roost: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009

ecofarmer · 03-20-2009, 10:59 AM

I posted my reading of the bill from a micro eco-farmers p.o.v. What I see is that there are "exemptions" for food productions facilities, i.e. farms, but as soon as you "process" anything you become a food establishment and are subject to all the inspections, registrations, and government controls. Processing means "packing, preparation, or manufacture of food." If I put my cut lettuce in a bag to sell at the farmers market or give to my neighbors, I have "processed" it, and could be fined for not meeting standards. There is also a requirement to impose NAIS and to develop such a system for ALL FOOD ENTERING THE FOOD STREAM. Big producers (with or without conspiracy) are not heavily impacted by these requirements because they don't process where they grow, and each processing facility needs only one inspection and one tracking ID. As a small producer, I must meet the inspection requirement and provide traceability for everything I produce, every bag of lettuce, every egg, every animal that leaves my tiny (5 acres) farm. I'd be buried in paperwork, expensive equipment and facilities, and insurance premiums.

Stoloniferous · 03-20-2009, 11:30 AM

Welcome to the forum Ecofarmer! Great to have you here!

Fearless Weeder · 03-20-2009, 08:29 PM

Thank you for sharing your point of view. It is very much appreciated.

03-19-2009, 07:29 AM	#22
biigblueyes WG Facilitator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cajun Country, Louisiana, USA	I took "non profit food establishment" to include soup kitchens. __________________ My yarden and I lean a little to the wild side.

03-19-2009, 10:34 PM	#23
Equilibrium Official Plant Nerd Join Date: Dec 2008	There are non profits that aren't tax exempt too. All the way around this H.R. 875 is a raw deal. __________________ "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

03-20-2009, 08:29 PM	#30
Fearless Weeder Administrator Join Date: Nov 2008	Thank you for sharing your point of view. It is very much appreciated. __________________ Welcome to Wildlife Gardeners! Please join us today to participate in the discussions.

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03-19-2009, 07:23 AM	#21
misskimmie Carbon Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Central NY	FYI, nonprofit is a tax status (501c..) and the organization may or may not be profitable. On the flip side, even if an enterprise ( a small business or backyard chicken coop is "not profitable" ie. doesn't show a net gain in income, that doesn't mean that it is "nonprofit".

03-20-2009, 10:16 AM	#26
Stoloniferous Too Wild To Garden Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Franklin, Massachusetts, United States	More info! Haven't read it yet, but posting it here to share. . . Background on H.R. 875 — Food & Water Watch

03-20-2009, 10:23 AM	#27
Stoloniferous Too Wild To Garden Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Franklin, Massachusetts, United States	Here is a small farmer's take on the bill: Roberts Roost: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009

03-20-2009, 10:59 AM	#28
ecofarmer Unicellular Fungi Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: east-central Ohio, USA	I posted my reading of the bill from a micro eco-farmers p.o.v. What I see is that there are "exemptions" for food productions facilities, i.e. farms, but as soon as you "process" anything you become a food establishment and are subject to all the inspections, registrations, and government controls. Processing means "packing, preparation, or manufacture of food." If I put my cut lettuce in a bag to sell at the farmers market or give to my neighbors, I have "processed" it, and could be fined for not meeting standards. There is also a requirement to impose NAIS and to develop such a system for ALL FOOD ENTERING THE FOOD STREAM. Big producers (with or without conspiracy) are not heavily impacted by these requirements because they don't process where they grow, and each processing facility needs only one inspection and one tracking ID. As a small producer, I must meet the inspection requirement and provide traceability for everything I produce, every bag of lettuce, every egg, every animal that leaves my tiny (5 acres) farm. I'd be buried in paperwork, expensive equipment and facilities, and insurance premiums.

03-20-2009, 11:30 AM	#29
Stoloniferous Too Wild To Garden Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Franklin, Massachusetts, United States	Welcome to the forum Ecofarmer! Great to have you here!