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Old 03-19-2009, 07:23 AM   #21
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FYI, nonprofit is a tax status (501c..) and the organization may or may not be profitable. On the flip side, even if an enterprise ( a small business or backyard chicken coop is "not profitable" ie. doesn't show a net gain in income, that doesn't mean that it is "nonprofit".
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Old 03-19-2009, 07:29 AM   #22
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I took "non profit food establishment" to include soup kitchens.
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:34 PM   #23
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There are non profits that aren't tax exempt too. All the way around this H.R. 875 is a raw deal.
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Old 03-20-2009, 07:09 AM   #24
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All the way around this H.R. 875 is a raw deal.
Except for Monsanto that is. Yet another example of let's screw over the "peons"
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:13 AM   #25
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Thanks for clarifying, guys.

This topic has reached Garden Rant: Garden Rant: Memo To My Children: Register Your Vegetable Stand Or Face Million-Dollar Fine

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Of course, if the bill is not a product of hysteria, the only other possibility is that it is profoundly corrupt. A sop to agribusinesses who don't like to see us growing our own beans rather than buying them from Green Giant.
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:16 AM   #26
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More info! Haven't read it yet, but posting it here to share. . .

Background on H.R. 875 — Food & Water Watch
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:23 AM   #27
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Here is a small farmer's take on the bill: Roberts Roost: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009
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Old 03-20-2009, 10:59 AM   #28
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I posted my reading of the bill from a micro eco-farmers p.o.v. What I see is that there are "exemptions" for food productions facilities, i.e. farms, but as soon as you "process" anything you become a food establishment and are subject to all the inspections, registrations, and government controls. Processing means "packing, preparation, or manufacture of food." If I put my cut lettuce in a bag to sell at the farmers market or give to my neighbors, I have "processed" it, and could be fined for not meeting standards. There is also a requirement to impose NAIS and to develop such a system for ALL FOOD ENTERING THE FOOD STREAM. Big producers (with or without conspiracy) are not heavily impacted by these requirements because they don't process where they grow, and each processing facility needs only one inspection and one tracking ID. As a small producer, I must meet the inspection requirement and provide traceability for everything I produce, every bag of lettuce, every egg, every animal that leaves my tiny (5 acres) farm. I'd be buried in paperwork, expensive equipment and facilities, and insurance premiums.
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Old 03-20-2009, 11:30 AM   #29
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Welcome to the forum Ecofarmer! Great to have you here!
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:29 PM   #30
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Thank you for sharing your point of view. It is very much appreciated.
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