Need input on pine mulch - Page 5 - Wildlife Gardeners

Equilibrium · 02-02-2010, 02:14 PM

Don't you have any neighbors using pine trees used as specimen trees in yards? I knock on the door and ask if I can help take some. Too many needles around the base of a pine tree can cause problems anyway and most homeowners are neat nics and don't like the build up.

linrose · 03-05-2010, 05:47 PM

OK, I have not been on this forum long but hopefully I can recommend a very good other forum (is that OK?) where the folks are very knowledgeable about such things. I guarantee you will find everything and more about mulches and compost, etc. there. Here is the URL Soil, Compost and Mulch Forum - GardenWeb

You might even get a little lost there after surfing a few hours!

Equilibrium · 03-06-2010, 11:29 PM

I don't think they care if we give links to other places. I've been to that forum before. There was some very good info. The thing that totally irks me with them is all the gunk they put on our computers that you have to clean up after you're done reading. It's pretty scummy IMHO to run into them in a search engine and then you click and you're there to read something or other before you figure out where you ended up. They're waaaaaay too into junk ads and tracking. Here's a forum I found surfing where I got lost that you might get a kick out of and pretty much all of it is organic, www.dirtdoctor.com • Composting Forum They have some sharp posters. I'm not a member but.... I picked up a lot from their organic home brews and composting forums. No tracking or spyware to clean up when you leave that dirt site. Another one I found that's free to read that you might like is Mother Earth News but it isn't a forum. That's a place I totally get lost at and they've got an excellent article on lasagna gardening, Lasagna Gardening. They're kinda ad overloaded too but no tracking garbage when you leave their place. Any other good reading sites you know of for organic fertilizers?

Calliandra · 03-06-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Equilibrium

The thing that totally irks me with them is all the gunk they put on our computers that you have to clean up after you're done reading. It's pretty scummy IMHO to run into them in a search engine and then you click and you're there to read something or other before you figure out where you ended up. They're waaaaaay too into junk ads and tracking.

Have you ever done a google site search on them, and then just read the caches instead of entering the site? It's a cleaner way to visit, and the google cache has older pages that Gardenweb has deleted.

For example, try

site:www . gardenweb . com compost
(but remove the spaces-- the system keeps making it into a link when I leave them out!)

and then click on the "cached" tab below each entry.

Equilibrium · 03-07-2010, 12:13 AM

Way cool trick. No way would I have figured that out on my own. I wasn't going to say much more but the last time I was there I vowed never to go back if they turned up in a search result because of all the junk they loaded my computer up with. And... I know it happened there because I cleaned up with SpyBot and restarted my computer then forgot to save the threads I wanted and had to go back to get them and got loaded again. It takes a lot of juice running spyware removal programs and I can't move around as fast as I want surfing when they're running. Their FAQ's were dated but there were a couple of really good threads that I ended up saving. Check out that lasagna gardening article I found. It's sooooo good. You're a reader like me so poke around at that other forum in that organic home brews and see what you think. I liked the compost tea discussions. I saved some of their threads too and bookmarked a site one of their people suggested, Soil Foodweb. I haven't had time to check it out yet. It looked promising. Working on it!!!

TheLorax · 03-08-2010, 01:53 PM

Would you be able to educate me on exactly how we would be able to differentiate between a cached website page as opposed to a live page?

There are other websites notorious for malware that have appeared in my searches. I shy away from reading information they offer. A dependable work around would be very much appreciated.

swamp thing · 03-08-2010, 08:12 PM

Here's an example - I just typed otter into google search - see the very end in lighter colors where it says cached - similar. It usually works when you get a dead link, the cached page will still be visible.
Sorry it's so big, I just copied and pasted it.

Otter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Otters are semi-aquatic (or in one case aquatic) fish-eating mammals. The otter subfamily Lutrinae forms part of the family Mustelidae, which also includes ...
Nomenclature - Characteristics - Species - In popular culture
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otter - 2 hours ago - Cached - Similar

But this might not answer your question Lorax, because in this case the cached page is the same as live.

linrose · 03-09-2010, 04:10 PM

I'm a little confused on what you mean by junk. Do you mean cookies for tracking? I know that GardenWeb used to be much better before iVillage bought them out and really started into hard core advertising etc. I was a frequent poster there for years until then. Now an occasional lurker. They seem to have some strange new system that tracks words by underlining them and putting them in color so we can all feel even stranger about being there at all. If you click on the word you get to an ad. Many good folks left after that change. And many left before that when iVillage took over. It's kind of a light group over there now, mostly newbies and a few hard core devotees from the old days. Sad really because there were so many incredibly intelligent and experienced folks that were willing to impart their knowledge for free!

Hmmmm.... maybe that's why I'm here now!!???
I think I've found a new home.

BooBooBearBecky · 03-09-2010, 04:15 PM

Linrose,
I agree with your comments about gardenweb. Too many popups and that new word link pop up thingy is the most annoying website "feature" ever!!

I'm happy to hear that you consider the WildlifeGardeners forum your new home.
I consider it my new home too!!

BooBooBearBecky

02-02-2010, 02:14 PM	#41
Equilibrium Land Steward Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois	Don't you have any neighbors using pine trees used as specimen trees in yards? I knock on the door and ask if I can help take some. Too many needles around the base of a pine tree can cause problems anyway and most homeowners are neat nics and don't like the build up. __________________ There are people all over the world who are willing to exploit others. You can't just point the finger at America -Arlo Guthrie

03-06-2010, 11:29 PM	#43
Equilibrium Land Steward Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois	I don't think they care if we give links to other places. I've been to that forum before. There was some very good info. The thing that totally irks me with them is all the gunk they put on our computers that you have to clean up after you're done reading. It's pretty scummy IMHO to run into them in a search engine and then you click and you're there to read something or other before you figure out where you ended up. They're waaaaaay too into junk ads and tracking. Here's a forum I found surfing where I got lost that you might get a kick out of and pretty much all of it is organic, www.dirtdoctor.com • Composting Forum They have some sharp posters. I'm not a member but.... I picked up a lot from their organic home brews and composting forums. No tracking or spyware to clean up when you leave that dirt site. Another one I found that's free to read that you might like is Mother Earth News but it isn't a forum. That's a place I totally get lost at and they've got an excellent article on lasagna gardening, Lasagna Gardening. They're kinda ad overloaded too but no tracking garbage when you leave their place. Any other good reading sites you know of for organic fertilizers? __________________ There are people all over the world who are willing to exploit others. You can't just point the finger at America -Arlo Guthrie

03-07-2010, 12:13 AM	#45
Equilibrium Land Steward Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois	Way cool trick. No way would I have figured that out on my own. I wasn't going to say much more but the last time I was there I vowed never to go back if they turned up in a search result because of all the junk they loaded my computer up with. And... I know it happened there because I cleaned up with SpyBot and restarted my computer then forgot to save the threads I wanted and had to go back to get them and got loaded again. It takes a lot of juice running spyware removal programs and I can't move around as fast as I want surfing when they're running. Their FAQ's were dated but there were a couple of really good threads that I ended up saving. Check out that lasagna gardening article I found. It's sooooo good. You're a reader like me so poke around at that other forum in that organic home brews and see what you think. I liked the compost tea discussions. I saved some of their threads too and bookmarked a site one of their people suggested, Soil Foodweb. I haven't had time to check it out yet. It looked promising. Working on it!!! __________________ There are people all over the world who are willing to exploit others. You can't just point the finger at America -Arlo Guthrie

03-08-2010, 01:53 PM	#46
TheLorax Unicellular Fungi Join Date: Nov 2008	Would you be able to educate me on exactly how we would be able to differentiate between a cached website page as opposed to a live page? There are other websites notorious for malware that have appeared in my searches. I shy away from reading information they offer. A dependable work around would be very much appreciated. __________________ "In the end we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we understand; we will understand only what we have been taught." -Baba Dioum, Senegalese ecologist

03-09-2010, 04:15 PM	#49
BooBooBearBecky WG Seed Pack Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern Wisconsin	Linrose, I agree with your comments about gardenweb. Too many popups and that new word link pop up thingy is the most annoying website "feature" ever!! I'm happy to hear that you consider the WildlifeGardeners forum your new home. I consider it my new home too!! BooBooBearBecky __________________ "Getting your hands dirty is the best way to keep your head clean."

03-05-2010, 05:47 PM	#42
linrose Unicellular Fungi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky	OK, I have not been on this forum long but hopefully I can recommend a very good other forum (is that OK?) where the folks are very knowledgeable about such things. I guarantee you will find everything and more about mulches and compost, etc. there. Here is the URL Soil, Compost and Mulch Forum - GardenWeb You might even get a little lost there after surfing a few hours!

03-08-2010, 08:12 PM	#47
swamp thing Mentor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: pennsylvania,usa	Here's an example - I just typed otter into google search - see the very end in lighter colors where it says cached - similar. It usually works when you get a dead link, the cached page will still be visible. Sorry it's so big, I just copied and pasted it. Otter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Otters are semi-aquatic (or in one case aquatic) fish-eating mammals. The otter subfamily Lutrinae forms part of the family Mustelidae, which also includes ... Nomenclature - Characteristics - Species - In popular culture en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otter - 2 hours ago - Cached - Similar But this might not answer your question Lorax, because in this case the cached page is the same as live.

03-09-2010, 04:10 PM	#48
linrose Unicellular Fungi Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky	I'm a little confused on what you mean by junk. Do you mean cookies for tracking? I know that GardenWeb used to be much better before iVillage bought them out and really started into hard core advertising etc. I was a frequent poster there for years until then. Now an occasional lurker. They seem to have some strange new system that tracks words by underlining them and putting them in color so we can all feel even stranger about being there at all. If you click on the word you get to an ad. Many good folks left after that change. And many left before that when iVillage took over. It's kind of a light group over there now, mostly newbies and a few hard core devotees from the old days. Sad really because there were so many incredibly intelligent and experienced folks that were willing to impart their knowledge for free! Hmmmm.... maybe that's why I'm here now!!??? I think I've found a new home.

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