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Old 07-25-2011, 09:06 AM   #11
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Old 07-25-2011, 01:37 PM   #12
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Philip, I do not see much reason to try and move your Russian Sage. The roots are long and rope like, almost impossible to move without damage. Your garden or the neighbors it would still not be native but is providing for honey bees which Xerces does include in its pollinator information.
Plant a native elsewhere and enjoy.
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Philip, I agree with Gloria. I am of the opinion that if I plant lots of natives, too, the few non-natives I have will not cause a lot of harm (so long as I keep them from invading my woods!). I have a Russian sage, and a pineapple sage; both are very popular with the bees, as are my blue mist shrub, lantana, zinnias and marigolds. The bees like the Queen Anne's lace as well, which volunteers rather than getting planted, and I leave it for the black swallowtail cats.
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Old 07-26-2011, 08:32 AM   #14
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No, it's a "problem" child just like butterfly bush and a host of others most of us could rattle off without batting an eyelash.
Question...What is your reason for stating that other than it being not native? Something more we should know?
I don't see any signs of it being aggressive and spreading. Mine stays put in a clump.
I Love the airiness and grey tones it adds to the bed.

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Oh really?

Well, I was more moving it because it's been there for a few years and is starting to get to be massive. I tend to add everything I can get my hands on to the soil, and it seems it's starting to get extremely fertile.

Hmm. I tried pruning it down extremely hard this year, and even then I had to go at it again with the secateurs during the end of spring.
Maybe I'll just try to split it instead, leave a chunk there, move a chunk to somewhere bare.
It's an amazingly popular plant. You can more or less go to it at any time, and find a praying mantis.
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Oh really?

Well, I was more moving it because it's been there for a few years and is starting to get to be massive. I tend to add everything I can get my hands on to the soil, and it seems it's starting to get extremely fertile.

Hmm. I tried pruning it down extremely hard this year, and even then I had to go at it again with the secateurs during the end of spring.
Maybe I'll just try to split it instead, leave a chunk there, move a chunk to somewhere bare.
It's an amazingly popular plant. You can more or less go to it at any time, and find a praying mantis.
That popularity you speak of is, I'm confident, the reason why Xerces recommends it in almost every region of the country, and it make the short list of plants to get for pollinators. Now, after reading Tallamy's book, I understand anyone who simply refuses to have an alien on their property. But if pollinator attraction is one's interest, and the only criteria is that a species not be invasive, it appears this is a plant one would be interested in.

Controversial subject, sure. One worth having? sure. Each person's individual decision? For sure.

I'm not surprised at all by your description of its attractiveness to pollinators...
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Now, after reading Tallamy's book, I understand anyone who simply refuses to have an alien on their property.
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Controversial subject, sure. One worth having? sure. Each person's individual decision? For sure.
I agree.
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How's that Japanese Maple doing that's on your property?
It's still getting under my nerves like someone else I know...but, I just can't seem to get rid of it yet.
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