What are these????

[BeeWonderful]

I am waiting for the first plant to bloom, but it's leaves are so distinctive, I thought someone here would be able to identify it.

The second one acts very weedy. It spreads all over in the back. But the leaves are all chewed up, making it seem like a native...some bugs are clearly enjoying it. Any ideas?

[dapjwy]

Originally Posted by BeeWonderful

I am waiting for the first plant to bloom, but it's leaves are so distinctive, I thought someone here would be able to identify it.

The second one acts very weedy. It spreads all over in the back. But the leaves are all chewed up, making it seem like a native...some bugs are clearly enjoying it. Any ideas?

The second one made me think of something I've seen in a book called "shepard's needle"...I did a search and found Bidens alba, but the leaves look wrong. Hopefully, this is at least a lead in the right direction.

[NEWisc]

First one looks like Conyza canadensis (Canadian horseweed, fleabane, hogweed):
Conyza**** canadensis: UW-Stevens Point Freckmann Herbarium: Plant Details Page

Second one looks like Galinsoga quadriradiata (Common quick-weed, Peruvian daisy, quick-weed, shaggy-soldier):
Galinsoga**** quadriradiata: UW-Stevens Point Freckmann Herbarium: Plant Details Page
.

[BeeWonderful]

Originally Posted by NEWisc

First one looks like Conyza canadensis (Canadian horseweed, fleabane, hogweed):
Conyza**** canadensis: UW-Stevens Point Freckmann Herbarium: Plant Details Page

Second one looks like Galinsoga quadriradiata (Common quick-weed, Peruvian daisy, quick-weed, shaggy-soldier):
Galinsoga**** quadriradiata: UW-Stevens Point Freckmann Herbarium: Plant Details Page
.

Thank you! It is so nice to know what these are. Thank you for your expertise!

[dapjwy]

Originally Posted by NEWisc

First one looks like Conyza canadensis (Canadian horseweed, fleabane, hogweed):
Conyza**** canadensis: UW-Stevens Point Freckmann Herbarium: Plant Details Page

Thanks, NEWisc. I think I've seen this growing on my property...right near the back patio where everything is supposed to be low...so, I've been pulling it out. I guess it would look fine mixed in with a meadow of grasses and wildflowers...so, it should probably be added to the http://www.wildlifegardeners.org/for...ost113509.html thread. It would be interesting to find out what species it attracts.

Now I have a name for it, if it sticks.

Originally Posted by NEWisc

Second one looks like Galinsoga quadriradiata (Common quick-weed, Peruvian daisy, quick-weed, shaggy-soldier):
Galinsoga**** quadriradiata: UW-Stevens Point Freckmann Herbarium: Plant Details Page
.

Thanks again. Following your link, I see just how small the flowers really are! Boy was I way off.

Now that I realize the flowers are so tiny, I think I *have* seen this around. At least now I'll know it is introduced and what to do with it.

[BeeWonderful]

Originally Posted by dapjwy

I guess it would look fine mixed in with a meadow of grasses and wildflowers...so, it should probably be added to the http://www.wildlifegardeners.org/for...ost113509.html thread. It would be interesting to find out what species it attracts.

Yes, I'd love to know more about it. If you look into it, be sure to let us know what you find out!