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Old 01-21-2009, 09:25 PM   #31
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Thanks Sage ,

I appreciate the compliments . As I develop this thread there will be a few tricks that will apply to you people who do not have saguaros to work with . I think that I have come up with some god preservation techniques .
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Old 01-22-2009, 11:05 AM   #32
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. . . some god preservation techniques .
I thought religious discussions weren't allowed here?
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Old 01-22-2009, 07:04 PM   #33
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I for one would very interested in hearing about "god preservation techniques". It's pretty obvious you're in the desert so much of this really doesn't apply to my area, but I do so enjoy reading about your projects and your pictures. I'm always up for new well written information.
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Old 02-22-2010, 05:42 PM   #34
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Can I chirp up.........
I have planted a few dead trees or snags myself. To be precise I favor the shape of the sumacs.
I dig a deep hole and insert a few large coffee cans (ends removed) one top of the other. I insert the bottom of the sumac tree into the cans and fill in the voids in and outside of the cans with gravel. I then wire the entire thing to the home to prevent wind damage. I use them for grapes or other vine supports. I like these way better than boughten trellises.

I do it this way thinking it will preserve their bases from rot that otherwise would happen if sunk into just plain soil. They last quite a few years.
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What a good idea, havalotta, and well thought through, as well. I think that sumac is a good choice, and the idea of the gravel and the coffee cans is inspired.
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That's a treasure you've got there! Way to go lonediver! It's quite impressive. What species will be attracted to it?

Only at a site like this will people truly appreciate what you are doing.

I agree! I am in such awe of your project. It is truly a beautiful snag!

...Yes, I can almost hear others viewing this site cheering you on as we view the pics of you 'replanting' it!
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I tried in vain to get him to enter a photo of his planted snags in the snag photo contest, but he was on sabbatical. I thought that the planted snags were inspired as well.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:35 PM   #38
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I tried in vain to get him to enter a photo of his planted snags in the snag photo contest, but he was on sabbatical. I thought that the planted snags were inspired as well.
Every time I see a snag or sometimes hundreds at a time, I think of Lonediver having to go through all that to get one.
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Old 02-23-2010, 02:07 AM   #39
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Can I chirp up.........
I have planted a few dead trees or snags myself. To be precise I favor the shape of the sumacs.
I dig a deep hole and insert a few large coffee cans (ends removed) one top of the other. I insert the bottom of the sumac tree into the cans and fill in the voids in and outside of the cans with gravel. I then wire the entire thing to the home to prevent wind damage. I use them for grapes or other vine supports. I like these way better than boughten trellises.

I do it this way thinking it will preserve their bases from rot that otherwise would happen if sunk into just plain soil. They last quite a few years.
Not bad Havalotta ,

10 brownie points and I take my index finger , lick it and mark a stroke through/in the air for you .

However , I've done you one better . In preparing my dead wood plantings , I take some medium/larger diameters of PVC or equivelent pipe . 12 inches usually or bigger in diameter as required . Usually 40 to 48 inches long . Dig a hole to almost that depth large enough to insert that now sleeve of pipe vertically into the hole first . Then tamping the dirt around the dirt around the earth as I backfill . Some inches from the top of the pipe , I fill the earthen well with water and allow to soak in . Repeat that step several times as the water is absorbed within the earten well . The interior of the pipe sleeve is still left empty .

After the water is absorbed, leave for sufficent time (a few days here) and allow the dirt to harden a bit . The dirts structure will cause the particles of earth once wet and as they dry to do a kind of "cementing" bond with each other . After you are satisfied that the vertical plastic pipe sleeve is bonded into position . It is now ready to accept your dead wood planting .

I usually put a few inches of earth into the bottom of the interior of the vertical pipe and put a disc of plastic on top of that so as to prevent any moisture conductivity from traveling upwards through the bottom of the pipe sleeve . Then I insert whatever is selected as a dead wood planting . Saguaro skeletons in a lot of my cases . But any dead tree/snag will do .

Once the tree is in the vertical sleeve ( the pipe needs to be sized so that the interior is perhaps 4 inches larger in interior diameter than the exterior diameter of the dead wood planting) start back filling smaller dirt particles , small gravel . Tamping with a heavy end of a metal pole if available . Take a piece of galvinized pipe and screw a cap on it , that will do , great tamping pole . Bring the backfill all the way to the top and slighly above . Slightly damp earth at this point . Mounding it around the base of the trunk so that it will shed water .

I always leave the pipe sleeve itself a few inches above the surrounding level earth . Usually I create a bit of a plant well . Then I can plant a ground cover or vine around the base so that the pipe will disapear from sight given time . I will follow this dialog with a photo essay in short order .

Pictures are worth a thousand words , so they say .

That is what lonediver has come up with . Your idea is somewhat similar Havalotta but steel cans rust . I do give you credit , you have done more than most . I just carry it to extreme .

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Thanks to everybody for kind compliments above .
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I WILL be using some sort of plastic sleeves from now on....Yup, you one'd me up. Spit on finger and chalk mark in the air back to you...
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