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Old 07-16-2010, 12:57 AM   #1
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Default New Self Promotion Policy - July 16, 2010

Regarding Self Promotion. Wildlife Gardeners would like all members to step out of their marketing shoes and into their work boots or gardening clogs when starting a thread or posting in threads. In our Fine Print we stated posting anything on topic and consistent with the focus of the board in which one was posting was acceptable. Wildlife Gardeners has no Google or Yahoo syndicated ads and we have no ads controlled by third party entities anywhere on our website, therefore it would be inappropriate to self promote one’s own publication, product, service, website, or blog. Posting a link to your personal website in the main body of a post is considered self promotion.

Simply stated, self promotion of one’s publication, product, service, website, or blog in threads will not be permitted in any of the main forums at WG. The “Green Products and Service Providers” is a separate area of our website that is controlled by a different policy.

If the above friendly notice is enough to gain your understanding and cooperation, you need not read any further. If it isn’t, then you need to read the remainder of this post.

Wildlife Gardeners will not allow it’s forums to become an advertising billboard for the millions of personal websites on the internet that are trying to attract attention to themselves. Our forums would quickly fill with posts that would say little more than “HEY, LOOK AT MY WEBSITE!”. That would annoy our members; and it would annoy us.

The first violation will result in the poster’s link being edited out of the post, and the poster receiving a PM with a link to this notice. The second violation will result in a one week suspension of membership privileges at Wildlife Gardeners. This will include the removal of any links in the poster's signature. The third violation will make the suspension permanent.

We realize that a firm policy like this is inevitably going to lead to a situation where we are going to step on some “friendly toes”. But we have a small staff that doesn’t have the time to review and debate every post containing a link to a poster’s personal internet presence. If you are those friendly toes, work with us to keep the forums enjoyable for everyone. And help us reduce the administrative workload required to maintain the Wildlife Gardeners website.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:54 AM   #2
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<<Posting a link to your personal website is considered self promotion.>>

So if I understand this correctly then I need to remove the link in my signature that leads to my wildlife images?
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Old 07-16-2010, 09:12 AM   #3
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No; sorry for not making that clearer. Your signature links are fine. Many members find signature links to personal websites like yours an enjoyable experience.

It's the links inserted in the main body of posts that we get complaints about. It's those kind of links that would rapidly turn our forums into an advertising billboard if we didn't control them.

I've edited the sentence that you quoted in the policy statement to clarify that this policy addresses thread posts and not signatures.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:17 AM   #4
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No; sorry for not making that clearer. Your signature links are fine. Many members find signature links to personal websites like yours an enjoyable experience...
I do enjoy looking at sites at my leisure and of my choosing without it being "in your face".

The funny thing is one of the first things I posted here was "Does anyone have any blogs?" I was interested in seeing blogs that document the process of tranforming a yard into a native habitat. Little did I know that just prior to my joining, there was apparently a problem with excessive self promoting of blogs.

Thanks for the clarification, Cirsium...I'd bet that members are more than willing to keep this site as it was meant to be and keep the moderators' job a little easier.
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:44 AM   #5
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I was worried like Dave. I include my blog link in my signature and thought perhaps now it was a boo-boo. I don't always put my signature in a post so people don't feel like they have to go to my blog.

I enjoy clicking on Dave's and Sage's and others blogs here. Thanks, Cirsium!
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:58 AM   #6
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No; sorry for not making that clearer. Your signature links are fine. Many members find signature links to personal websites like yours an enjoyable experience.

It's the links inserted in the main body of posts that we get complaints about. It's those kind of links that would rapidly turn our forums into an advertising billboard if we didn't control them.

I've edited the sentence that you quoted in the policy statement to clarify that this policy addresses thread posts and not signatures.
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Me too about not having the camera handy when I really, really want a pic of something great. The other day, used to only seeing the usual summer birds, along comes a pretty one I hadn't ever seen before. So, naturally, I couldn't get a photo and can't figure out what it was! And one year, actual Malachite butterflies showed up in my yard! They were absolutely awe-inspiring, one of the best experiences I've ever had! I can't even describe how lovely they were. But again, no photo, no memento to look at...drat! I may have to go down to the border sometime and find out where to look for them so I can enjoy looking at photos of them again and again!

You might find this butterfly park established by the North American Butterfly Association interesting:
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And do remember to take your camera; we would enjoy looking at the photos too.
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Circium, I often do what you did yesterday in the post above - make a link of a place or thing you're speaking of. This makes it very convenient for the reader to take a closer look at what you are speaking of, without the bother of having to google it. This practice is very helpful and I think, considerate. I hope WG is not going to make members fear doing this.
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Just as with the quotations used in signatures, links in the signature area can be used as a form of self expression, or as a source of information or inspiration. We like to offer as many benefits to our members as we can. It's a luxury that we can indulge in with the kind of membership that we have.

We are not aware of any members abusing this privilege. We have only had a very small number of problems with signatures. We do expect the use of signatures to conform to widely accepted cultural norms. And we do ask that signatures (and any links within) conform with the spirit of our mission statement. If we are made aware of any signature content that espoused/sold invasive species, for example; or a link that led to inappropriately explicit material, we do reserve the right to remove it.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:27 PM   #8
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Circium, I wasn't speaking of sigs but wondering about the kind of link you used here
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Circium, I often do what you did yesterday in the post above - make a link of a place or thing you're speaking of. This makes it very convenient for the reader to take a closer look at what you are speaking of, without the bother of having to google it. This practice is very helpful and I think, considerate. I hope WG is not going to make members fear doing this.
This policy statement is about self promotion. Self promotion is linking to your own personal website or a website that you have a financial or other personal affiliation with. It prohibits self promotion; it does not prohibit or discourage linking to other helpful or informative websites.
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This thread gives us all a sneak peek at what goes on behind the scenes...This issue had to be addressed, but has led to many legitimate questions that must be answered--all of this takes time. I, myself, sent a PM that was promptly answered.

As I stated before, I was very naive about all the time that goes into this site. I'm trying not to let that happen again.
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