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Old 02-22-2009, 02:05 PM   #11
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Put em up. Put em up. Come on now, raise those fists you veggie head you.

Take a look at one of the last posts. Leslie found an interesting article where people were promoting keeping hackberries small. There wasn't any mention of when the best time to prune was. There's only one way to keep a hackberry small and that would be to hack at it. Prune prune and prune some more. You also have to consider how few people bother to sterilize their pruners before they move from limb to limb not to mention tree to tree.

Sealing with elmers may be ok for herbaceous perennials or for your precious veggies but not so good for woodies. Read it and weep woman and the science to back it up is out there even for one cut on a tree, http://msuextension.org/publications/YardandGarden/MT199304AG.pdf

"Wound Painting
Research conducted in the past several years indicates that wound dressings (creosote, tree paint, tar) do not prevent decay and that they are of limited value for wound closure. In fact, applying a dressing to exposed wood (caused by breakage or a pruning cut) only seals in disease microorganisms and creates a perfect habitat for advancing decay.
When a tree is wounded, the injured tissue is not repaired and does not heal. Trees don’t heal; they seal. They have a unique defense system called compartmentalization that sets up a protective boundary between injured and healthy tissues. This area is highly protective and physically and biochemically resists the spread of infecting organisms. The most important thing you can do to enhance this natural process is to prune wisely and carefully and keep your trees vigorous and healthy."

One thing though doc to add to the above, there's really two defenses at play. Compartmentalization and closure. I think the world of you you feisty lil thing but I do need to get your head out of veggies and flowers every once in a while. Have you hugged a tree lately? See below about who wins when they die. You can't take those veggies with you.
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:14 PM   #12
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Bah humbug to you to, toots! The butterflies can eat the hackberries but doubt they even make good jelly. Good thing I like butterflies ain't it?
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:36 PM   #13
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Bah humbug to you to, toots! The butterflies can eat the hackberries but doubt they even make good jelly. Good thing I like butterflies ain't it?
Maybe not jams and jellies but here for a few recipes for hackberry ;


http://books.google.com/books?id=0tD...um=9&ct=result

Hey , heres one we can toast to , hackberry wine ;

http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/reques17.asp


hackberry harvest ;

http://tucsonivores.wordpress.com/20...berry-harvest/

Whadda ya know , hackberry jelly ;

http://earthnotes.tripod.com/hackberry.htm

and more ;

http://books.google.com/books?id=pOa...um=7&ct=result
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Old 02-22-2009, 03:44 PM   #14
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Well, well, I take it back! I had no idea these were good for booze! Put's a whole new light on these lil ol trees, I may have to reconsider!
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:18 PM   #15
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Hey , heres one we can toast to, hackberry wine ;
As soon as Leslie, who's in my neck of the woods, talked about hackbery being a native and a butterfly plant the first thing I did was to search "hackberry wine". And when I found the Jack Keller recipe, I knew I'd have to fine one. Native, butterfly host, berries for birds, and berries for wine - that's what I call a home run!

I've made wine with all sorts of things, but it's hard to beat dark berries.
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Here's the other site we talked about for your Master Gardeners group, http://www.msue.msu.edu/objects/content_revision/download.cfm/item_id.207786/workspace_id.-30/OC0251%20Tree%20Wound%20Dressings%20Are%20Cosmetic .pdf/ If you need the actual research let me know.

There's a pie recipe out there for brambleberry pie. The ingredients call for hackberries and it's really tasty.
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:04 AM   #17
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I shall have to do further research on this "woodie". Don't know if it will fit, but worth checking into. Besides I ain't to chicken to prune and psfff to those airborne pathogens!!!
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Old 02-23-2009, 11:11 AM   #18
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You ain't skeered of no cooties?
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Pfsttt to the cooties too! I ain't a skeered! LOL
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The hackberry trees I've known at River Legacy Park in Arlington were growing in a woody tangle - continuous woods - and full of caterpillars. The area was loaded with butterflies. Walking the wooded trails thru the hackberries in the spring, I had to dodge cats hanging down on little escape lines. The birds feasted on the berries, which were too high to pick for wine, sorry!

Learn more about them here ... http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/c/celocc/celocc1.html
or here http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/c/cellae/cellae1.html
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