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Old 03-13-2013, 11:27 PM   #31
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I could never been an entomologist because I could never intentionally kill the insects. Oh well...
I hope you're making an exception for OE infected monarchs. You really need to kill the infected ones so they don't spread the problem. If something seems off with a monarch, play it safe. To me, putting them in the freezer is the most humane.

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So tell us a bit about what this OE is that you speak of..
Any photos of them with it so we know what to look out for?
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:02 AM   #33
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So tell us a bit about what this OE is that you speak of..
Any photos of them with it so we know what to look out for?
The link in my last post explains it and has pictures. Last part of the page explains why you should euthanize and gives options to do it.

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Monarch Watch : Biology : Parasite Control : Ophryocyctis elektroscirrha
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Oooops Guess I missed that. Thanks
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Spore bearing had me thinking it must be in the plant kingdom but upon further looking into the various terms...

Oe is a type of parasite.
Parasite is a protozoan.
Protozoa are a diverse group of eukaryotic organisms, chiefly motile and heterotrophic unicellular protists (as amoebas, trypanosomes, sporozoans, and paramecia)
Eukaryotic organism whose cells contain complex structures enclosed within membranes.
Heterotrophic unicellular protists An organism that cannot synthesize its own food and is dependent on complex organic substances for nutrition.

Protists Historically, protists were treated as a biological kingdom formally called the Protista, and included mostly unicellular organisms that did not fit into the other kingdoms.

Ah HA! No Wonder I was having trouble figuring out if it was in the animal or plant kingdom... The spores threw me off!

Would I be correct in guessing it to be.... A Sporozoan?
https://www.google.com/search?q=spor...hrome&ie=UTF-8
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You missed the memo. Sporozoa is no longer a valid term.
Introduction to the Apicomplexa

That article mentions the class Sporozoa. I always knew it as a phylum.


Tough to keep up with things these days. Things are getting reclassified all the time because of DNA analysis. When I took an entomology class in 2011, we were told that some of the stuff we were learning was no longer valid but we still had to learn the old way for reasons I don't remember. Sometime after I took that class, one of the insect orders that was valid at the time has since been reclassified as non-insect.
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I saw that it had no longer fit into the other kingdoms but didn't notice where it now rests.
I'm sure glad I don't need to remember such things, but it was real interesting to follow and learn about something as odd as they.
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Default Tulip Tree Moth - Callosamia angulifera

This female tulip tree moth was on the wall of the lodge at Shawnee State Forest in Ohio. I wanted soooooo badly to take her home and get some eggs but I followed the rules and left her alone. First tulip tree moth I had ever seen.
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This is a male tulip tree moth that decided to join my son's Boy Scout troop for dinner at Mammoth Caves in KY last April. He was literally on our dinner table. He liked our lantern.
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I hope you're making an exception for OE infected monarchs. You really need to kill the infected ones so they don't spread the problem. If something seems off with a monarch, play it safe. To me, putting them in the freezer is the most humane.

OE spore

Of course I would euthanize an Oe infected monarch! My students know all about Oe and other monarch pathogens. They also know a lot about euthanasia. When we have had monarchs born with very deformed features (maybe Oe, maybe not), they learned that putting it in the freezer is the most humane way to go. I always have to have one of them remind me so that an unknowing teacher doesn't accidently find it. We've also euthanized deformed chrysalids and sickly caterpillars.
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