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Old 11-23-2012, 11:12 PM   #1
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This guy was hanging out on my climbing asters today, along with a whole slew of friends. I thought as first he was a wasp, but looking at the photos, I think he is a hover fly. I can't find a match for him on bugguide in either category.
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And as long as we are thinking about flies, here are two more that were hanging out their as well. All I usually get on fly id's are "yup, it's a fly", (well, maybe a little better than that, but I have no expectation of a species identification here!)
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:16 PM   #2
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I guess I'm no help except to say "Yep, it's a fly" in regards to the last two pics. Lets wait for suunto.

It is nice to see asters still blooming. Mine are long since done except two stragglers that bloomed very late, but weren't looking too good last time I spotted them.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:25 PM   #3
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I am really happy to have blooms this late. The climbing asters/ Ampelaster carolinianus didn't even start blooming until the first week of November here. I don't know how far north they are native, but I would highly recommend planting them for very late season blooms for your pollinators. Of course late season is later in NC than in Pennsylvania, no matter what plant it is!
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I am really happy to have blooms this late. The climbing asters/ Ampelaster carolinianus didn't even start blooming until the first week of November here. I don't know how far north they are native, but I would highly recommend planting them for very late season blooms for your pollinators. Of course late season is later in NC than in Pennsylvania, no matter what plant it is!
Thanks for the suggestion. I just looked it up (isn't it great having all of this information at our fingertips?), and unfortunately it doesn't seem to range very far north at all. From the map I saw it is clearly a southern species. Thanks anyway. ...Like you said, late season in PA is pretty different than in NC...so, I'll just be happy finding a variety of very late bloomers native to my area. Gentian springs to mind--at least I think it is a let bloomer...I've not much experience with it.
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Old 11-24-2012, 06:47 AM   #5
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This guy was hanging out on my climbing asters today, along with a whole slew of friends. I thought as first he was a wasp, but looking at the photos, I think he is a hover fly. I can't find a match for him on bugguide in either category.
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This looks like Spilomyia longicornis - see Spilomyia longicornis photo - Tom Murray photos at pbase.com

And as long as we are thinking about flies, here are two more that were hanging out their as well. All I usually get on fly id's are "yup, it's a fly", (well, maybe a little better than that, but I have no expectation of a species identification here!)
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I cannot see enough detail to be confident of an i.d. - about all that I can say is that it is a muscoid fly, perhaps a sarcophagid...
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Old 11-24-2012, 08:58 AM   #6
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Suunto, which one? The two flies are not the same individual, although I would easily believe they are both muscled flies. I just liked the look on its face of the one drinking - yes, I know it isn't really an expression of enjoyment, but doesn't it look like a kid slurping a milkshake?
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Suunto, which one? The two flies are not the same individual, although I would easily believe they are both muscled flies. I just liked the look on its face of the one drinking - yes, I know it isn't really an expression of enjoyment, but doesn't it look like a kid slurping a milkshake?
My statement holds for both of the last two images. These flies can be challenging to identify by a non-expert, and I most definitely am not an expert on this group!
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